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We are taught to call a wrong a wrong. That is the first step to anything. Otherwise if I am in a position of power I will try to change things. But I am not.Do you have a plan?
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We are taught to call a wrong a wrong. That is the first step to anything. Otherwise if I am in a position of power I will try to change things. But I am not.Do you have a plan?
You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.Kudos , you're one of a good i met ahmadi then .
You know I know a girl , from ahmadi background and she'll mention how much she hates pakistan because her brother was taunted by some igniorant fools .
She prays for destruction of pakistan.
While on other side , I've a muslim friend who lost her only brother in a shia attack and she will ever pray for the power of pakistan.
i don't know the details of the case so can't comment right now. but since the constitution has already banned propagation of qadiyaniat hence fresh or old the material is illegal.The judge's order had no time limit. Apparently the authorities need a hearing to make their case and cannot seize this material on what amounts to their own judgment - a whim.
You people use these heavy words as if they are nothing, what the Turks did to the armenians was genocide, the Burmese suppression of Rohingas, however deplorable, not even close to genocide.
What I meant was Ahmadis are like stateless citizens whose rights has been severely curbed in Pakistan, not by common people or mulla, but by the constitution
Read post 55 as for the rest of the post as i said they do get discriminated which is just terrible and there is no justification for it but things are changing what mullahs have done will take some time to change although i don't support NS but he is doing a lot for our minorities like how we just honored our national hero DR. Abdus Salam see things are changing and i will say it again Ahmdias are as patriotic as any other Pakistani no matter what their religion is.You people use these heavy words as if they are nothing, what the Turks did to the armenians was genocide, the Burmese suppression of Rohingas, however deplorable, not even close to genocide.
What I meant was Ahmadis are like stateless citizens whose rights has been severely curbed in Pakistan, not by common people or mulla, but by the constitution
So Police can act against everyone in Pakistan but it should never touch Qadyanis as they are pure and they always have ready-to-play victim card ?
Dude if one thing about my country that I am truly proud of is my constitution, which is absolutely free of bigotry and discrimination, Ahmadis are muslims as per our law, it hardly matters what my neighborhood mulla has to say about thisEven muslims in India accept those provisions that are in our constitution. Ask any mullah near you.![]()
You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.
On topic Govt of Punja banned it but there were no Law pass on it as case were in court and there is no hearing on it since 2015. @Pakistani Exile hope they come out on bail Inshallah.
If it is for their safety then bloody protect them from the ba*stards who might hurt them.
So? If it is innovation then let the almighty sort them out.
There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
Nothing like Rohingyas at all, I still believe that the vast majority of Pakistanis are tolerant and accepting even if they are not shy to say they have religious differences. The problem is certain constitutional and legal barriers put in place that stop us from worshiping however we want. And of course the constant conspiracy theories spread around by certain clergymen and others who paint us as super evil villains plotting against Pakistan.
Also the Rohingyas issue cannot be compared with Ahmadis. Ahmadis are amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan and proud citizens, several Ahmadis have reached very high positions, there is no Ahmadi genocide going on. Yes there are extreme problems for some and I wished for them to be resolved. It was worse before but I personally think Pakistan is improving a lot, for example the ones responsible for Ahmadi mosque attacks in Lahore were hanged. Which is very endearing considering the fact that normally police did not even bother to investigate cases properly before.
I don't believe the state has the right to dictate to me that I identify myself as something that I don't consider myself to be. For example if tomorrow the world legislates that I am now a "Monkey", it does not make me one and I won't start calling myself a monkey just because the majority feels that way.
PS: I don't speak for the Ahmadiyya community. I am just an individual who happens to be an Ahmadi. The above mentioned facts are just my opinion.
Guys it will be a good thing if we stay away from this debate.Ahmadis are muslims as per our law
Nothing like Rohingyas at all, I still believe that the vast majority of Pakistanis are tolerant and accepting even if they are not shy to say they have religious differences. The problem is certain constitutional and legal barriers put in place that stop us from worshiping however we want. And of course the constant conspiracy theories spread around by certain clergymen and others who paint us as super evil villains plotting against Pakistan.
Also the Rohingyas issue cannot be compared with Ahmadis. Ahmadis are amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan and proud citizens, several Ahmadis have reached very high positions, there is no Ahmadi genocide going on. Yes there are extreme problems for some and I wished for them to be resolved. It was worse before but I personally think Pakistan is improving a lot, for example the ones responsible for Ahmadi mosque attacks in Lahore were hanged. Which is very endearing considering the fact that normally police did not even bother to investigate cases properly before.
I don't believe the state has the right to dictate to me that I identify myself as something that I don't consider myself to be. For example if tomorrow the world legislates that I am now a "Monkey", it does not make me one and I won't start calling myself a monkey just because the majority feels that way.
PS: I don't speak for the Ahmadiyya community. I am just an individual who happens to be an Ahmadi. The above mentioned facts are just my opinion.
Talk about kashmiris muslims where you ban azan sometimes .Dude if one thing about my country that I am truly proud of is my constitution, which is absolutely free of bigotry and discrimination, Ahmadis are muslims as per our law, it hardly matters what my neighborhood mulla has to say about this
You are fkn lying despite continuing discrimination on Ahmidi Muslims in Pakistan killing them torture them burning them alive arresting them the Head of Ahmaddiya community always in his sermons requests Ahmadiya community to keep remember Pakistan in your prayers. Stop bringing here your home made story.
On topic Govt of Punja banned it but there were no Law pass on it as case were in court and there is no hearing on it since 2015. @Pakistani Exile hope they come out on bail Inshallah.