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Ahmadi Muslims Rally Against Extremism, ISIS.

Discussing whether they are Muslim or not is firstly, none of your bloody business. It's off topic and unnecessary.
No more on that discussion from here on.
 
Discussing whether they are Muslim or not is firstly, none of your bloody business. It's off topic and unnecessary.
No more on that discussion from here on.
@Horus Is this right what this Mod is saying?

Please ask this Mod to behave and not use words such as 'bloody'.

Qadyanis can declare Muslims 'Kaafir', but Muslims cant stop them from using the word Muslim.

This member has also deleted my post and I demand to know why was it deleted? I want to know what rule of this forum was broken or violated? Did I use indecent language? Did I say something that was not factual? Did I fabricate anything? Did I insult anyone? Why my post was deleted?

He needs to come up with right reason or apologize or please ask me to leave this forum and I'll do it immediately. I cant stay on a forum where my voice is suppressed only because some Mod did not like me to post Mirza Saheb's own fatwa on declaring all those Muslims 'Kaafir' who do not believe in his profit-hood.
 
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Expressing yourself against criminals terrorists is sign of a healthy society ..young minds will think twice before joining these groups when society expresses their anger against these people ...
 
Ahmadiyya Muslims rally against extremism

Ben Miljure, CTV Winnipeg
Published Sunday, November 2, 2014 5:09PM CST
Last Updated Sunday, November 2, 2014 8:05PM CST

Members of a Winnipeg Muslim community rallied at the Manitoba Legislative Building Sunday to condemn the violent attacks against two Canadian soldiers in Ottawa and Quebec.
The group, mostly members of the Ahmadiyya Mosque, waved Canadian flags and wore poppies.
"This is our backlash to what happened two weeks ago, because it doesn't represent the true teachings of Islam, which seem to have been lost by some people,” said Muslim Canadian Bashir Khan.

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Members of a Winnipeg Muslim community rallied at the Manitoba Legislative Building Sunday to condemn the violent attacks against two Canadian soldiers in Ottawa and Quebec. (Photo by Ben Miljure/CTV)
Warrant Officer Patrice Vincent and Cpl. Nathan Cirillo were killed by Canadian-born men who had recently converted to Islam.
Investigators say both Ottawa shooter Michael Zihaf-Bibeau and Quebec attacker Martin Couture-Rouleau had been radicalized by Islamic State ideology.
"This is not true Islam,” said Mahpara Talat at the rally. “We don't support this. It is really barbaric and I was really saddened by what happened."
In the wake of the two attacks, vandals damaged a mosque in Cold Lake, Alberta, smashing windows and spray-painting ‘Go home’ on the walls.
Zulfiqar Ali, an imam at the Ahmadiyya Mosque in Winnipeg, says violent attacks in the name of Islam can trigger backlash against Canadian Muslims.
"It is there. Sometimes it's there. But I have not experienced that here in Winnipeg, not to that extent,” said Ali.
Calling loyalty to one’s country a fundamental pillar of Islam, people at Sunday’s rally proudly said they stand in solidarity with members of the Canadian military.
"The freedom that I enjoy in this country is because a soldier laid down his life, or her life, in Canada.” said Khan. “Be it the last two weeks or fifty years ago or a hundred years ago."
The mosque will be collecting donations this week to donate to programs to Canadian veterans.


Read more: http://winnipeg.ctvnews.ca/ahmadiyya-muslims-rally-against-extremism-1.2083545#ixzz3KCiX4jQP

Good news Scums like ISIS should not be tolerated
 
whats the problem with them, they are worshipping your god, they are doing what any muslim do.
Why cant you accept them?
If you cant accept them,then how can you accept converted muslims?

Because they still expect a human form to transcend space and time and para troop from the fourth heaven.
 
I deleted my post because any discussion about if this that is muslim or not is not allowed here..

so everything I posted is meant so and other may not change their minds.. so everybody knows what the other side thinks so let it be.. and lets talk about the topic :)
 
@Horus Is this right what this Mod is saying?

Please ask this Mod to behave and not use words such as 'bloody'.

'bloody' is not a swear word. It's archaic, it's like saying 'damn'. But, if you still have a problem take it up where appropriate.

I find it laughable, here you are labelling a people, calling them non believers, and you have a problem with a strong toned response.

Qadyanis can declare Muslims 'Kaafir', but Muslims cant stop them from using the word Muslim.

This member has also deleted my post and I demand to know why was it deleted? I want to know what rule of this forum was broken or violated? Did I use indecent language? Did I say something that was not factual? Did I fabricate anything? Did I insult anyone? Why my post was deleted?

Again;

Yes. That is what I'm saying, if you have a problem with me or what I'm saying, make a thread in GHQ. Report me if you like.

Fact of the matter is, religious discussions in most circumstances aren't allowed first and foremost, second it is off topic as I said, thirdly, it's wrong in my opinion and unnecessary.

why religious discussion are not allowed ON PDF | Page 3
Are Religious discussion allowed on PDF? | Page 2
Why ban on religious - quran/hadiths topics?

Also! It is NONE of your business what people call themselves or associate to. And now that you posted this, I will again have to delete it. Thank you.


He needs to come up with right reason or apologize or please ask me to leave this forum and I'll do it immediately. I cant stay on a forum where my voice is suppressed only because some Mod did not like me to post Mirza Saheb's own fatwa on declaring all those Muslims 'Kaafir' who do not believe in his profit-hood.

I am sorry, if you misunderstood me, not sorry for anything else. Let me make that absolutely clear.

Again, you have no reason to do anything drastic, I never take things like this personally, but you are more than welcome to make a thread at GHQ and request moderation, I will stay out of it and your concerns will be served completely fairly and in an unbiased way. I promise.

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Sheikh Muhammad Sharif Odeh, leader of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in the Holy Land:

"I visited the synagogue that was attacked in Jerusalem, and from the first moment, I felt a sense of anger because of this shameful act, which does not conform to our glorious Islam"

[Ma'an (independent Palestinian news agency) Nov. 24, 2014]


by Itamar Marcus and Nan Jacques Zilberdik​


Ahmadi Muslim religious leader, Sheikh Muhammad Sharif Odeh, who lives in Israel, condemned all the recent terror attacks carried out by Palestinians under the pretext of defending the Islamic holy sites, stating that they are a distortion of Islam. In an op-ed published in Ma'an, a private Palestinian news agency, he said that Muslims must "defend, first of all, the churches, houses of worship and monasteries of their fellow men, even before their own mosques."


Rejecting the statements of the PA and Fatah leadership, who have supported, defended and glorified the attacks, Odeh wrote:


"I assert that those people who are attempting to sanction this crime or incite to similar acts in the name of religion have no backing from the Quran."​


He stated that crimes like the killings in the synagogue "contradict the principles of tolerance" in Islam:


"I visited the synagogue that was attacked in Jerusalem (i.e., in which five people were killed), and from the first moment, I felt a sense of anger because of this shameful act, which does not conform to our glorious Islam and contradicts its principles of tolerance. My condemnation of this crime arises from my understanding of and belief in glorious Islam..."​


Note: The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is a relatively small branch of Islam that was founded at the end of the 19th century and has between 10 and 20 million followers. Many mainstream Muslims consider Ahmadis heretics and non-Muslim, and they have been subjected to persecution and oppression. Pakistan, for example, amended its Constitution to categorize them as non-Muslims and prohibits them from identifying as Muslims. There have been riots in Muslim countries in which Ahmadis were killed for their "heretic" beliefs.


Palestinian Media Watch has reported that although PA Chairman Abbas condemned the murders in the synagogue, Fatah officials have since explained his condemnation was insincere and a diplomatic necessity while Abbas' advisors have glorified the terrorists, endorsed their crimes andpromoted more violence.


The following is a longer excerpt of the op-ed by Sheikh Muhammad Sharif Odeh, leader of Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in the Holy Land, condemning murder in the name of Islam:


Op-ed by Sheikh Muhammad Sharif Odeh, leader of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Community in the Holy Land.

"When Allah, exalted be He, gave permission for the Muslims to fight, he did so in order that they might defend complete freedom of religion. He emphasized to them that it was their duty to defend, first of all, the churches, houses of worship and monasteries of their fellow men, even before their own mosques. He promised to support them if they adhered to this noble aim: to realize freedom of religion and defend the houses of worship from aggression and defilement...

It is striking that Allah, exalted be He, set this aim for them... in a period in which they, the Muslims, were suffering religious persecution, before they attained authority and influence - which they acquired later on, once they ruled over large countries populated by people of other religions. This proves that Allah, exalted be He, gives no excuse for neglecting, in any way, the defense of your neighbor's houses of worship, even if theMuslims themselves are suffering from religious persecution and their mosques are being attacked. It is the duty of all Muslims to rise up and protect these houses of worship from attack, with the same fervor with which they defend their mosques...

As for mosques, Islam confirms that they are open to visitors - in fact, to worshippers of any religion, as long as their visits do not unjustly provoke or hurt the worshippers. If the visits are conducted according to these rules, which can be agreed upon, no Muslim has the right to prevent visitors from entering the mosques of Allah. On the contrary, Allah has threatened those who prevent visitors from entering mosques with disgrace in this world and suffering in the next... Muslims must remember these principles and teachings, and abandon the obsolete, criminal ideas that call for violence, crimes and aggression... that are voiced by the traffickers of religion and those seeking to realize their personal or political aspirations by igniting strife and escalation at any price...

A few days ago, I visited the synagogue that was attacked in Jerusalem (i.e., in which five people were killed), and from the first moment, I felt a sense of anger because of this shameful act, which does not conform to our glorious Islam and contradicts its principles of tolerance. My condemnation of this crime arises from my understanding of and belief in glorious Islam; my religion, of which I am proud, and which the above individuals are attempting to stain with their ideas and behavior. Neither this act nor the other run-over attacks and criminal actions have anything to do with [the principle of] Islamic Jihad, Islamic moral principles ormuru'a (traditional Arabic term for positive qualities a person should have, including hospitality, generosity, and courage).

It is the duty of my Muslim brothers in this land and around the world to condemn it and disassociate themselves from it. I assert that those people who are attempting to justify this crime or incite to similar acts in the name of religion have no backing from the Quran or from the Prophet's Sunnah that support their position. I assert that supporting this or any other similar act will have a destructive effect on our nation and our future."

[Ma'an (independent Palestinian news agency) Nov. 24, 2014]​
 

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