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Aggressive' China losing friends: leaks


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Updated at: 0158 PST, Monday, December 06, 2010
'Aggressive' China losing friends: leaks

'Aggressive' China losing friends: leaks

WASHINGTON: China's "newly pugnacious" foreign policy is "losing friends worldwide", the US ambassador to Beijing argued in a cable last February.

European diplomats were "most vocal", although Indian and Japanese counterparts voiced similar complaints, Jon Huntsman wrote. In other dispatches US diplomats quote unhappy African officials.

In his cable, entitled "Stomp around and carry a small stick: China's new 'global assertiveness' raises hackles, but has more form than substance", he accused Beijing of "muscle-flexing, triumphalism and assertiveness", but added that some observers saw it as rhetoric designed to appeal to Chinese public opinion. "Numerous third-country diplomats have complained to us that dealing with China has become more difficult in the past year," Huntsman reported. His examples included:

¦ A British diplomat saying that Chinese officials' behaviour at the Copenhagen climate change summit was "shocking" and so rude and arrogant that the UK and French complained formally.

¦ The Indian ambassador to Beijing requesting closer co-operation with the US because of "China's more aggressive approach".

¦ Japanese diplomats complaining that officials were "aggressive and difficult" during summit preparations.

¦ Another Japanese official describing rising tensions in the East China Sea, saying that "the increased aggressiveness of Chinese 'coastguard' and naval units... had provoked 'many dangerous encounters' with Japanese civilian and self-defence force ships".

The official said Japan had not reported all the incidents. The issue became public in the autumn when Japan arrested the captain of a Chinese fishing boat for ramming a coastguard vessel near disputed islands.

The cable refers to another dispute that later broke into the open. A Norwegian diplomat said Oslo was unhappy with the trend of bilateral relations, citing the lack of progress in human rights discussions and referring to the jailing of writer Liu Xiaobo. China reacted angrily when Norway's Nobel committee gave the peace prize to Liu recently.

The main tensions appear to be with China's neighbours or established western powers. In several cables US diplomats note China's growing influence in Latin America and Africa. One cable notes the Kenyan ambassador stressing the benefits of China's role on the continent and saying Africa has nothing to gain if the US and China co-operate.

Juliu Ole Sunkuli "claimed that Africa was better off thanks to China's practical, bilateral approach to development assistance and was concerned that this would be changed by 'western' interference... Sunkuli said Africans were frustrated by western insistence on capacity building, which translated, in his eyes, into conferences and seminars. They instead preferred China's focus on infrastructure and tangible projects."

Other cables suggested some African diplomats felt "a degree of suspicion and resentment" about China's role. A Nigerian official suggested poorer countries were "coerced" into aid-for-resources deals. Elsewhere a Moroccan diplomat commented: "China will never play the role of a global leader if it treats its trade partners so poorly."

Assessing US-China relations at the start of 2009, the then US ambassador to China, Clark Randt, saw growing similarities in relations with the rest of the world. "By the end of the next 30 years China should no longer be able to portray itself as the representative of lesser developed countries.

This does not mean that it will necessarily identify with the more developed, mainly western countries; it well might choose to pursue some uniquely Chinese path... Even so, China's growing position as a nation increasingly distinct from the less developed world may expand our common interests." It was possible China "will come to be identified by the average citizen in less developed countries not as 'one of us' but as 'one of them'."
 
Mmmm... Not sure what I make of this. It was almost expected that China would start being more aggressive with it's neighbours in light of it's economic prowess. China would do better to play the diplomatic game.
 
thief crying thief. it's the unprofessional and rude americans that illegally prevented the entry of our diplomats to the copenhagen negotiations and the aggressive japanese that kidnapped our captain that caused all of this. they're just mad we aren't bowing down.
 
So who are the friends that China lost? It is not like the UK and Japan were ever China's friends to begin with... They both have arms embargo against China, btw... friends? yeah right.

As for Africa, so I guess resource for infrastructure is so much worse than daylight robbery, broken promises, and outright slavery/colonialism, right? Africans have benefited tremendously and the US just refuse to acknowledge it due to its own arrogance.
 
So who are the friends that China lost? It is not like the UK and Japan were ever China's friends to begin with... They both have arms embargo against China, btw... friends? yeah right.

Good point, since when was Japan ever a "friend" of China?

I don't know what history books they are reading...
 
Is it just me, or is Wikileaks helping US more than hurting it? I mean, seriously. All the things coming out are helping the US. China getting tired of NK, India seeking US help against China, etc. Even the supposed diplomatic cables aren't that bad. I mean, every country says those things in private and it's not like they lost anything big over it.

I'm not saying Julian Assange is a CIA agent, but it seems like the government purposely place only certain documents in easy to access locations in hopes that someone like Assange would 'steal' them and release them.
 
Is it just me, or is Wikileaks helping US more than hurting it? I mean, seriously. All the things coming out are helping the US. China getting tired of NK, India seeking US help against China, etc. Even the supposed diplomatic cables aren't that bad. I mean, every country says those things in private and it's not like they lost anything big over it.

I'm not saying Julian Assange is a CIA agent, but it seems like the government purposely place only certain documents in easy to access locations in hopes that someone like Assange would 'steal' them and release them.

Yes, that's quite a common sentiment on these forums.

No way to prove it of course, but it certainly is suspicious...
 
get back to that table again..

The decrease between 2008 and 2009 was due to the Credit Crunch, at which point all trade across the world decreased.

So what is your point? Global trade decreased during the Credit Crunch, that's not exactly a surprise.
 
So who are the friends that China lost? It is not like the UK and Japan were ever China's friends to begin with... They both have arms embargo against China, btw... friends? yeah right.

As for Africa, so I guess resource for infrastructure is so much worse than daylight robbery, broken promises, and outright slavery/colonialism, right? Africans have benefited tremendously and the US just refuse to acknowledge it due to its own arrogance.


The western countries see themselves as the world, they talk and behave as if the entire world sees them as angels. China needs to be aggressive to counter the western aggression.
 
trade volume of china with the world decreasing....

It's ok if the world buys a little less from China, when the slack is picked up by domestic consumption and as long as India keeps shipping its natural resources to China and buying finished Chinese goods and technology, I'm sure China will do just fine (pseudo-colonial trade for the win)
 
It's ok if the world buys a little less from China, when the slack is picked up by domestic consumption and as long as India keeps shipping its natural resources to China and buying finished Chinese goods and technology, I'm sure China will do just fine (pseudo-colonial trade for the win)

The drop was only due to the Credit Crunch, the overall trend is doing well.

... and as long as India keeps shipping its natural resources to China and buying finished Chinese goods and technology, I'm sure China will do just fine (pseudo-colonial trade for the win)

Yeah they really shouldn't do that. Exporting raw materials and importing finished products is a very bad idea for your trade balance.
 
^ I agree CD, although I feel that India is not up to a point where it can fully utilize its raw materials, so if they stay underground they add zero value to the economy. I'm hopeful as the economy grows the domestic demand for these products will increase and India should be able to utilize these materials in house. A similar case would be wrt rare earths being primarily supplied by china, as china's domestic consumption rises, its RE exports will decline further as well.
 

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