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ISLAMABAD - Pakistan’s experience with parliamentary democracy has not been very enviable. Political parties have failed to make the most of this system. Each experience of democratic tenure has resulted in sheer disappointments, if not failures. In the early and mid-90s, corruption tainted the two major political parties. After the Musharraf years, the transition to parliamentary democracy has again been overshadowed by allegations of corruption and plundering of public funds on an unprecedented scale. A debate is expected to start in the country soon about the viability of the parliamentary system and whether Pakistan would be better off with the presidential system.

The real power brokers have been grappling with this idea for quite some time, and there is a strong sentiment in favor of a presidential system. There are two models of the presidential system in review: American system or the semi-presidential system of France. In the latter order, the president appoints a prime minister but retains control over real levers of power. The Turkish model is also of particular interest.The major ruling parties would be averse to a presidential system of governance. However, Imran Khan might relish it. And, the PTI government might end up doing the spadework for an eventual change of system in the country. Already some columns have appeared in the Urdu press, stressing on the need to have a presidential system and dilating on the failures of the parliamentary democracy. Interestingly, some astrologers and tarot card readers in TV shows hosted in the last week of 2018 also predicted of a presidential system in the country. It appeared more like a public opinion molding campaign than a genuine gaze into the crystal ball.

Nonetheless, if one attempts to give political prognosis without relying on the cosmic tabulation, the following are the contours of the emerging scenario in the medium-long term. The Arab countries will bankroll the current government away from default after agreements have been sealed with the backing of the Establishment. Relations with China will be drastically recalibrated and many of the pacts and projects signed by the previous government will either be revised or shelved. The lessons learned from the years of engagement with the United States have made the (deep) state wary of getting entangled into a similar arrangement with another power. Internally, all notables of the politic class, who defined the politics of the last two decades, will be made to fade away ingloriously. The Establishment has spurned dynasty politics. The media is already tamed and cowed down; further restrictions will be imposed on social media. A Chinese model of the Internet seems very appealing to the powers-that-be.

A dominant player of the Establishment once hailed Imran Khan as the only honest politician. Most of the commandments of that player have come true: judiciary coming in to check the errant politicians and governments, mainstreaming of religious militants into politics and marginalizing of the entrenched politicians and their progeny. The last unfinished business is that of an introduction of the presidential system. Gradually but surely, a new system of a strong man – once the dawn of Imran Khan led change fades away— beckons us.
 
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Nothing will happen despite the fact that founder of the nation preferred presidential system for Pakistan.

Not only me but many patriotic persons have been discussing for long time about but who cares ?

Some genuine efforts from my side.

Presidential system part 1
Presidential system part 2

I want things to go fast but at the same time I dont feel comfortable of an all encompassing executive with all powers than we get the same problem Turkey has with Erdogan a elected dictatorship or sorts
 
I want things to go fast but at the same time I dont feel comfortable of an all encompassing executive with all powers than we get the same problem Turkey has with Erdogan a elected dictatorship or sorts

Bro I am not a diviner so can't predict the future but we are a super creation of Allah as a human & can think what's best for us. So we should adopt the best.

I am already tired to discuss about the system. I hope someone elaborate and answer your query.

But if you are really interested you can find the answer in my previous comment part 2.
 
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Unfortunately presidential form of system cannot work in Pakistan due to one province having the majority of the population. Whoever is acceptable to Punjab will rule over all of Pakistan and that person will have zero incentive to work for the rest of the country as happened with Nawaz from 2013 to 2018.
 
Unfortunately presidential form of system cannot work in Pakistan due to one province having the majority of the population. Whoever is acceptable to Punjab will rule over all of Pakistan and that person will have zero incentive to work for the rest of the country as happened with Nawaz from 2013 to 2018.
It is not as you think. 3.5 votes of panjab's MPAs are equivalent to 1 vote of Baluchistan.
hope @Imad.Khan can help you more.

Read his article
Flaws in the current System and my solution to it

I suggest you to read my content as well from my first comment of this thread part 1 and 2.
 
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Unfortunately presidential form of system cannot work in Pakistan due to one province having the majority of the population. Whoever is acceptable to Punjab will rule over all of Pakistan and that person will have zero incentive to work for the rest of the country as happened with Nawaz from 2013 to 2018.

Well its still the same thing now, you need votes from Punjab to win. What is required with Presidential system is that only the winning party should hold the ministries.

This is what i suggest

1. Disband all the current Provinces and Autonomous regions (GB, AJK)
2. Elevate Divisions to Provincial status (including divisions in GB, AJK and FATA) administered by a directly elected Governor
3. Withdraw Provincial legislative powers and make them have only administrative powers
4. Only have a single Legislative house with equal representation from each Divisions.
5. Have separate elections for Administrators and Legislators.
 
I want things to go fast but at the same time I dont feel comfortable of an all encompassing executive with all powers than we get the same problem Turkey has with Erdogan a elected dictatorship or sorts
Then you haven't seen anything yet!!!! Wait for the folks coming after Erdo'an....

Current phase is just the pre-match warming up....
 
Ambassador Munter is on Mission in islamabad. But I like him he is a good fellow Looks like he is getting job in Trump administration.
 
only honest man is not sufficient we also need a man who has vision and morally good ik may be honest but he lacks vision and is not capable of leading country
 

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