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I responded to your allegation of mass murder and rape on Muslim conquest , which you failed to refute any of the conquest i mentioned as few of the most Peaceful conquest ever done in human history ..
Like I said earlier, Muslim conquest saw no murder, rape, and pillaging.

Instead of backing your claims you just say Off topic, find a easy way to escape the argument .. even i ask you i am all ears to hear from neutral sources of how many rapes and murders happen to those Pilgrimages .. but do mentioned how many those Christ Followers butchered when they took Jerusalem from Muslim .. maybe your own EU brothern are shameful for what your ancestors did that day
Perhaps I did not go there because ... IT WOULD GO EVEN FARTHER OFF TOPIC. I.e. you would get your way in derailing discussion in this thread.

All i am waiting for your response to my questions .. Topic is about some Terrorist murder a innocent girl out on street who is filled with hate and Islamophobia , just because his skin color is different ,and from US does not mean he can't be called a Terrorist .
Don't hold you breath.

I call it by a different name i.e American Imperialism
You can call it what like. It is still BS
 
Very much so. This is not IS related. Nor is there a 'white' IS equivalent. And as for "the history when thousands was butchered in the name of Christs and God wills it": let's not forget the like number slaughtered in the name of Allah and God wills it. No rape, murder and pillaging whatsoever during any of the Muslim conquests, right?
Folks in Chechniya disagree :D

You can call it what like. It is still BS
Would IS exist if US stayed in its god damn border and not do regime changes?
 
Well then stop going on. Stop making excuses for it.
Man, are you thick or something? Or is it just that you can't be bothered to read? Let me spell it out once more: At no point anywhere have I made any excuses for anyone or anything. This is in your mind. You are attempting to project this on me. I have not excused anyone or anything. I merely point out you conclude things with out factual basis and you present speculation as fact.

I gave a plausible scenario of events that could have lead up to the murder. That is not an excuse and does not deny the fact there was a murder. You comment on this is BS.

You wish to not wait untill more is known, fine. But be fair and admit you do not at present know enough to actually correctly conclude what you conclude. You speculate, or make whatever 'facts' you find fit your preconceived conclusion (=framing)

Folks in Chechniya disagree :D


Would IS exist if US stayed in its god damn border and not do regime changes?
Sure, you start taking this thread of topic too now? I ain't taking your bait. G'day.
 
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Sure, you start taking this thread of topic too now? G'day.
I am making it more of a national issue than a religious one which it actually is btw
The fact stands American regime changes brought nothing but death and destruction to the countries that are now under ISIS terror
Sure the leaders of those countries were not perfect but are the people US associates itself with now beacons of perfection?
 
I am making it more of a national issue than a religious one which it actually is btw
The fact stands American regime changes brought nothing but death and destruction to the countries that are now under ISIS terror
Sure the leaders of those countries were not perfect but are the people US associates itself with now beacons of perfection?
Like I said, no takers for your bait, G'day.
 
I wont, you are one of the respected member here i always enjoy reading and look for information, hope you are not mad at me :P
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Man, are you thick or something? Or is it just that you can't be bothered to read? Let me spell it out once more: At no point anywhere have I made any excuses for anyone or anything. This is in your mind. You are attempting to project this on me. I have not excused anyone or anything. I merely point out you conclude things with out factual basis and you present speculation as fact.

I gave a plausible scenario of events that could have lead up to the murder. That is not an excuse and does not deny the fact there was a murder. You comment on this is BS.

You wish to not wait untill more is known, fine. But be fair and admit you do not at present know enough to actually correctly conclude what you conclude. You speculate, or make whatever 'facts' you find fit your preconceived conclusion (=framing)


Sure, you start taking this thread of topic too now? I ain't taking your bait. G'day.

But you are cutting corners, I never mentioned it's a bang on factual hate crime, I said it is what I believed it so with valid points FACTUAL points drawn from the case. Is that difficult to comprehend? Your 'plausible' scenarios draw no realistic conclusion as previously stated how is it possible one can miss a group of teenagers walking on a pavement? And what reason or right do they qualify to exhibit their anger when it's more of an entitlement for the opposite party?

Evidence? Read up Einstein they've already put it down as a 'road rage'. I'm following this story so if you're going to debate me on it - get with it otherwise 'G'day' - and mean it this time.
 
even a mad penguin is too cute to resist :) lets get back to topic before we both are thread banned :P
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But you are cutting corners, I never mentioned it's a bang on factual hate crime, I said it is what I believed it so with valid points FACTUAL points drawn from the case. Is that difficult to comprehend? Your 'plausible' scenarios draw no realistic conclusion as previously stated how is it possible one can miss a group of teenagers walking on a pavement? And what reason or right do they qualify to exhibit their anger when it's more of an entitlement for the opposite party?

Evidence? Read up Einstein they've already put it down as a 'road rage'. I'm following this story so if you're going to debate me on it - get with it otherwise 'G'day' - and mean it this time.
WHO SAID ANYONE MISSED A GROUP OF TEENS WALKING ON A PAVEMENT? I DIDN"T.
WHERE DO YOU GET THAT THE DRIVER MISSED - as in 'did not see' - THE GROUP?

Possible, since that strip of pavement is quite narrow and the group fairly large apparently, some teen weren't on the pavement initially. Which may have lead to honking, a verbal exchange, escalation, retribution for a (real or perveiced) wrong, murder. That would be a road rage scenario, actually. But this is a scenario, not fact. A plausible scenario, but not known fact for us posters

Scenario: A postulated sequence or development of events. An internally consistent verbal picture of a phenomenon, sequence of events, or situation, based on certain assumptions and factors (variables) chosen by its creator.

Road rage clearly isn't about reason or right. Folks flip and go out of control. Obviously. :rolleyes1:

Have you figured out yet why police are calling it road rage? Did some police official comment on that in the media? If so, let's have a link and a quote.
 
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Ok folks stay on topic.

RIP dear lady. As for the vermin who did this, an illegal from El-Salvador how horrid.
 
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WHO SAID ANYONE MISSED A GROUP OF TEENS WALKING ON A PAVEMENT? I DIDN"T.
WHERE DO YOU GET THAT THE DRIVER MISSED - as in 'did not see' - THE GROUP?

Possible, since that strip of pavement is quite narrow and the group fairly large apparently, some teen weren't on the pavement initially. Which may have lead to honking, a verbal exchange, escalation, retribution for a (real or perveiced) wrong, murder. That would be a road rage scenario, actually. But this is a scenario, not fact. A plausible scenario, but not known fact for us posters

Road rage clearly isn't about reason or right. Folks flip and go out of control. Obviously. :rolleyes1:

Have you figured out yet why police are calling it road rage?

Narrow sidewalks usually have wider roads, so even IF the group was let's say slight on the edge of the road, bringing them ONTO the road, why would you drive onto a curb (taken from various articles) almost knocking off a civilian? Why not drive around them? I'd even buy the half baked story of it being 'man slaughter' but road rage? What a joke.
 
Ok folks stay on topic.

RIP dear lady. As for the vermin who did this, an illegal from El-Salvador how horrid.

It would be best to wait for the police investigation to complete and have the court case present the evidence. Why the rush to judgement based on preconceived notions?
 
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