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This is Pakistan. Just because the police arrest somebodies - even if they're 99% sure they're guilty - doesn't mean there will be a conviction, or even if the suspects will ever go to court.

Did anybody hear of the police collecting forensic evidence?
Without evidence, what's to prevent twenty cousins from falsely testifying in court to provide suspects alibis?
Or maybe the father of one or more suspects has a friend who is a minister and can order them released?
How do you measure barbarism? By how the majority of a society lives or by the violent extremes it tolerates - or even encourages and empowers?
What am I judging? That Pakistan's justice system is corrupt? Do Pakistanis really need me to tell them that?so you being the big holier than thou judge -
Pakistan is the country that invented "encounter killings". While doing so may eliminate miscreants, such deeds also add to general lawlessness and instability.keep into account that it isn't police job to determine who is guilty and who isn't guilty. That's the job of the COURTS.
Too many Pakistani crime investigations I've read about - like Benazir Bhutto's murder - have foundered due to lack of forensic investigations by the police. So I think I'm asking a proper question.did you hear of them NOT collecting forensic evidence? Are you privy to details of the investigation which the public isn't?
Remember Gojra? All those Christians killed and their property destroyed and the result was that the Interior Ministry agreed to rebuild the homes of the survivors in exchange for not prosecuting their tormentors. The Christians that remain must face the people who slaughtered their families without penalty or remorse on the street. How is that justice? Should the Hindus remain if a similar result is sought?right now it's based on witness accounts; the police already assured the hindu community that action would be taken.
I have a higher opinion of Pakistan's police than you think. But how can they effectively convict criminals without forensic tools and equipment, without training, and without proper facilities for storing evidence? If Pakistan diverted a fifth of what it spends on troops on the Indian border towards such things and brought ordinary policeman's pay up to highway trooper levels, don't you think it would massively improve Paksitanis' feeling of security?11 out of 15 of the ACCUSED are now in custody. What miracles are you expecting 24 hours after the incident?
"Holier-than-thou" isn't my problem. Envy is. Yes, I've never been to Pakistan. I've never had to deal with a Pakistani's liabilities - and I will never collect honors and benefits due to those Pakistanis who will eventually correct them.there is a section of society in Pakistan that is intolerant no doubt.....that's where education and activism come in handy to correct this problem. And that can be handled internally, without the holier-than-thou approach of somebody who has probably never even travelled to Asia --let alone Pakistan.
What am I judging? That Pakistan's justice system is corrupt? Do Pakistanis really need me to tell them that?
Pakistan is the country that invented "encounter killings".

While doing so may eliminate miscreants, such deeds also add to general lawlessness and instability.

Too many Pakistani crime investigations I've read about - like Benazir Bhutto's murder - have foundered due to lack of forensic investigations by the police. So I think I'm asking a proper question.
Remember Gojra? All those Christians killed and their property destroyed and the result was that the Interior Ministry agreed to rebuild the homes of the survivors in exchange for not prosecuting their tormentors. The Christians that remain must face the people who slaughtered their families without penalty or remorse on the street. How is that justice? Should the Hindus remain if a similar result is sought?
Muslim and Christian leaders came together recently to commemorate a tragedy in a small Christian neighborhood in Pakistan two years before, and to denounce the perpetrators, who have not been punished.
The leaders came together in an interfaith event that was held at the Sacred Heart Church in Gojra last Monday, to mark the second year anniversary of the August 2009 tragedy, where 10 people died, including a family of seven who were set on fire; and dozens of Christian homes were razed to the ground.
Two Muslim leaders apologized for the violence during the event. The Muslim leaders said they regretted the violence which is inconsistent with the “spirit of Islam,” Catholic News India reported.
In 2009, some 800 Muslims attacked Christian neighborhoods in Gojra in the Punjab region, setting buildings on fire and attacking people, leaving 10 dead. Although 70 suspects were arrested, all were acquitted.
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In an interfaith mass, Rt. Rev. Bishop Joseph Coutts of the Diocese of Faisalabad said in his message, “The blood of the martyrs is seed of the church. The early Christians were persecuted by the Romans and Jews, (and) before conversion, Paul also persecuted Christians, but Christianity flourished very fast.”
At the same time, Coutts stressed the need for change, Christian Telegraph said. “There is injustice in society, and efforts must be made for a just and peaceful society in Pakistan.”
I have a higher opinion of Pakistan's police than you think. But how can they effectively convict criminals without forensic tools and equipment, without training, and without proper facilities for storing evidence?
If Pakistan diverted a fifth of what it spends on troops on the Indian border towards such things and brought ordinary policeman's pay up to highway trooper levels, don't you think it would massively improve Paksitanis' feeling of security?
"Holier-than-thou" isn't my problem. Envy is.
Yes, I've never been to Pakistan. I've never had to deal with a Pakistani's liabilities - and I will never collect honors and benefits due to those Pakistanis who will eventually correct them.
Will that be your job, A.Z.? Or will you concentrate and lying low and making as much money as you can, hoping to evade the tempest before it strikes?

Until the SC renounces the doctrines "necessity" that have been used to legitimize coup after coup it is a part of a corrupt system that denies democratic rule to Pakistanis and keeps murderous military rulers on top - a reality Admiral Mullen was shocked into believing when he became convinced that the order to kill Saleem Shahzad came from an officer on Kiyani's staff.the Supreme Court in Pakistan is incorruptible and even some western analysts will agree with that
Encounter killings by police - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediado explain
Do the misdeeds of foreigners justify Pakistanis allowing murderers to walk the streets, unpunished, striking terror into the hearts of the relatives of their victims?it's funny how more communal unrest takes place in neighbouring india (3,000 Muslims killed in Gujrat, scores of Christians killed in Orissa riots, caste-based discrimination) yet you never comment on those.
The reality of religious tolerance isn't discovered when a mullah mouths soft words of reconciliation. The reality is discovered when the same mullah whips up his followers to either chase down non-Muslims, or oppose those doing so.Muslim and Christian leaders came together recently to commemorate a tragedy -
AZ, I understand Pakistani textbooks teach it different, but since independence the reality is that all of the wars between India and Pakistan have originated by Pakistani initiative. So maintaining "proportionate" forces at the Indian border is unlikely to increase Pakistani security; the opposite is more likely, in my opinion.our actions along the indian border are CONTINGENT on the actions of the indians themselves. When they maintain an offensive force near our border then, by God, you can be rest-assured that we will react proportionally.
Until the SC renounces the doctrines "necessity" that have been used to legitimize coup after coup it is a part of a corrupt system that denies democratic rule to Pakistanis and keeps murderous military rulers on top - a reality Admiral Mullen was shocked into believing when he became convinced that the order to kill Saleem Shahzad came from an officer on Kiyani's staff.
Do the misdeeds of foreigners justify Pakistanis allowing murderers to walk the streets, unpunished, striking terror into the hearts of the relatives of their victims?
The reality of religious tolerance isn't discovered when a mullah mouths soft words of reconciliation.
The reality is discovered when the same mullah whips up his followers to either chase down non-Muslims, or oppose those doing so.
AZ, I understand Pakistani textbooks teach it different, but since independence the reality is that all of the wars between India and Pakistan have originated by Pakistani initiative. So maintaining "proportionate" forces at the Indian border is unlikely to increase Pakistani security; the opposite is more likely, in my opinion.