Number of Pakistanis living in acute poverty is less than India yet malnutrition is higher how?
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Number of Pakistanis living in acute poverty is less than India yet malnutrition is higher how?
I don't think it needs to be only Muslim Pakistani to make such report.One politically biased report will now be used to feed an entire industry of of garbage against Pakistan. One media will be use it as source, then another ten will uses that and then another 100. Proliferation at it's best.
Okay which one of you guy's would trust a report on India managed by me and @PAKISTANFOREVER ? You all know what we would do. I would as team leader f*ck up India. Well let's have a look at IFPR's South Asia team shall we? They better not be friggin Indians.
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Two Ganga-Wallahs straight from India. And their in charge of South Asia. That I guess that give IFPR hallmark of impartialty. Imagine having Palestinians preparing Human Rights Report on Israel?
@Solomon2
*We are expected to believe that within few years of Modi taking over the largest cesspit of hungry starving to death in the world - India has now suddenly overtaken Pakistan? You expect me to believe that a country with 2 million of it's people tethered like animals pulling rickshaws has become land of plenty?
I think I need to do Puja !
Like I said before make me South Asia director at IFPR and place @PAKISTANFOREVER as my assistant and we would have reports showing Indian's eating out of latrines. I went over to the not so friendly World Bank which is not above 'bending' truth but it is not so pliable as some one bit IFPR. World Bank also relies on one standard benchmark and therefore it is not so easy to manipulate it. That is it uses $1.90 threshold. Anybody with below that is considered to be in state of poverty. Here are the raw facts. Brace yourselves for this girls and boys.
India > Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population) 31.1% 2009 21.2% 2011
Pakistan > Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population) 7.9% 2011 6.1% 2013
Yes, guys. Humpy Ganga India has 21% of it's population starving with Pakistan at 7.9%. Compare now will you? Now those of you who visit Pakistan like I do can relate to the 7.9% although honestly that figure in my region is far lower than that but I know in Sindh they have pockets of poverty near the Indian border (is poverty infectious).
* To all the Pakistani's here. Let this be a lesson. In the world reality rarely cuts any ice. Perception does. Perception is a product like any other. It is manufactured. Like any manufacture those who are in positions of power get to shape it. Right now whether you like it or not the West is the primary maker of perception. What is shouts reverbates all across the globe. The centre of all of this is America. Nothing is going to chamnge this order for another four decades at least.
Therefore Pakistani's need to f*ckin lay off the anti American, anti Israeli, anti Western rhetotioc. In fact I would appeal to Pakistani's to please stop that. You have no beef with them. They are not your enemies. Yes they hold negative opinions of you but that is our fault. We need to fix that, not make it even worse. If Pakistani's don't do this you will merely encourage a stronger West-Isreal-India trioka. Whilst you can't change geopolitics but you can do everything to reduce the negative energy.
Pakistani's also need to drop the "Muslim" this and that rubbish. Learn from the Turks. Contrary to what people think I am not against Islam. Many members here like @Markus know where I stand with regard to that. Indeed my own nephew is so religious that he will pray on the side of motorway service station and with shaved head, full on beard, shalwar kameez cuts a figure of Chechen Islamics warrior and I love that lad. But you have act as Pakistani's always even while you have your head bowed to the almighty. We got brain. Use it.
If Pakistan does not then every year you will see more reports like this poring out forth with closet Indians paddling away furiously spreading the muck. You can shout all you like but lies can become perception. We know about Iraw and WMD's to know that.
So please play smart. We know the dirtiest, filthiest, starving cesspool is in Ganga India. But that does not mean much if the world thinks we are the pit!
Look f*cktard I used 2011 figures as common point of referance. Look below
Now what you goiing to tell me? In 5 years India has now become Norway and those figures are historical?
Comparing 2011 data for India with 2013 data for Pakistan? Pathetic. You do know that Pakistan is going reverse when it comes to poverty reduction because I have the LATEST figure with me from UNDP. And BDW, World bank is good for economy data, for poverty data I rely on UNDP.
"Nearly 39 percent of Pakistanis live in multidimensional poverty, with the highest rates of poverty in FATA and Balochistan. Pakistan’s MPI showed a strong decline, with national poverty rates falling from 55% to 39% from 2004 to 2015. However progress across different regions of Pakistan is uneven. Poverty in urban areas is 9.3 percent as compared to 54.6 percent in rural areas. Disparities also exist across provinces."
-UNDP
Can't post link because I am new to this forum
Like Pakistan knows or ever has spent anything on education let alone HDIThat's is one solution as the fertility rate of Pakistan is highest in South Asia.
Population growth 3.32%, and the economic growth rate is <4%. Math is not favoring HDI here.
2011 figures."Kaptaan, post: 8818935, member: 139301"]Yes, guys. Humpy Ganga India has 21% of it's population starving with Pakistan at 7.9%. Compare now will you?
Isn't this thread about Hunger and Starvation? Pakistan is not able to perform as good as other S Asian countries and it would be productive if we can discuss ways to bring Pakistan at parity with the rest of S Asia.Why are you giving UNDP figures if yours is 54 % compared to our 39 % ? . While at world bank 2013 yours is 12 % still DOUBLE the amount of Pakistan .ciao
Isn't this thread about Hunger and Starvation? Pakistan is not able to perform as good as other S Asian countries and it would be productive if we can discuss ways to bring Pakistan at parity with the rest of S Asia.
Malnourishment in India in 2016: 15%
Malnourishment in Pakistan in 2016: 22%
and the data has been taken from GHI site.
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Zoom it and see for yourself. This is not some fanboy newspaper site from some ancient time. This from GHI's own website in 2016.
Why you want to compare with India when statistics is not in your favor.It would be good if you get your head out the sand and see the figures. Why do you keep parrating 39 % UNDP figures if yours is 54 % ? While again at world bank yours is double of ours.
And it would be good if we help you with poverty and sanitation since you are usually the country that tops the list whenver there is a discussion about the dirtiest of places.
Why you want to compare with India when statistics is not in your favor.
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Isn't this thread about Hunger and Starvation? Pakistan is not able to perform as good as other S Asian countries and it would be productive if we can discuss ways to bring Pakistan at parity with the rest of S Asia.
Malnourishment in India in 2016: 15%
Malnourishment in Pakistan in 2016: 22%
and the data has been taken from GHI site.
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Zoom it and see for yourself. This is not some fanboy newspaper site from some ancient time. This from GHI's own website in 2016.
Malnourished & BPL both are different things..Like I said before make me South Asia director at IFPR and place @PAKISTANFOREVER as my assistant and we would have reports showing Indian's eating out of latrines. I went over to the not so friendly World Bank which is not above 'bending' truth but it is not so pliable as some one bit IFPR. World Bank also relies on one standard benchmark and therefore it is not so easy to manipulate. That is it uses $1.90 threshold. Anybody with income below that is considered to be in state of poverty. Here are the raw facts. Brace yourselves for this girls and boys.
India > Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population) 31.1% 2009 21.2% 2011
Pakistan > Poverty headcount ratio at $1.90 a day (2011 PPP) (% of population) 7.9% 2011 6.1% 2013
Yes, guys. Humpy Ganga India has 21% of it's population starving with Pakistan at 7.9%. Compare now will you? Now those of you who visit Pakistan like I do can relate to the 7.9% although honestly that figure in my region is far lower than that but I know in Sindh they have pockets of poverty near the Indian border (is poverty infectious).
* To all the Pakistani's here. Let this be a lesson. In the world reality rarely cuts any ice. Perception does. Perception is a product like any other. It is manufactured. Like any manufacture those who are in positions of power get to shape it. Right now whether you like it or not the West is the primary maker of perception. What is shouts reverbates all across the globe. The centre of all of this is America. Nothing is going to chamnge this order for another four decades at least.
Therefore Pakistani's need to f*ckin lay off the anti American, anti Israeli, anti Western rhetotioc. In fact I would appeal to Pakistani's to please stop that. You have no beef with them. They are not your enemies. Yes they hold negative opinions of you but that is our fault. We need to fix that, not make it even worse. If Pakistani's don't do this you will merely encourage a stronger West-Isreal-India trioka. Whilst you can't change geopolitics but you can do everything to reduce the negative energy.
Pakistani's also need to drop the "Muslim" this and that rubbish. Learn from the Turks. Contrary to what people think I am not against Islam. Many members here like @Markus know where I stand with regard to that. Indeed my own nephew is so religious that he will pray on the side of motorway service station and with shaved head, full on beard, shalwar kameez cuts a figure of Chechen Islamics warrior and I love that lad. But you have act as Pakistani's always even while you have your head bowed to the almighty. We got brain. Use it.
If Pakistan does not then every year you will see more reports like this poring out forth with closet Indians paddling away furiously spreading the muck. You can shout all you like but lies can become perception. We know about Iraq and WMD's to know that.
So please play smart. We know the dirtiest, filthiest, starving cesspool is in Ganga India. But that does not mean much if the world thinks we are the pit!
BRO If you go by national standards Pakistan is doing way worse than India..That doesn't mean we are also doing good.Population estimations are correct in national standard.National poverty line indicates the relevant & appropriate poverty line indicator of any nation where in International poverty line is considered in context all countries whether rich or poor for the sake of just measuring.We both are improving fast..It would be good if you get your head out the sand and see the figures. Why do you keep parrating 39 % UNDP figures if yours is 54 % ? While again at world bank yours is double of ours.
And it would be good if we help you with poverty and sanitation since you are usually the country that tops the list whenver there is a discussion about the dirtiest of places.