1965 war: Pivotal actions of Pakistani armed forces

[Signalian]

Got this book in pdf?

yes.

https://www.pdfdrive.com/m48-patton...stani-war-1965-osprey-duel-71-d158296552.html

 

[Yaseen1]

we would not have returned captured posts back to india and it was a great mistake done at that time

 

[Signalian]

He clearly mentions in his book citations that his source is Pakistani official history book of 6th armoured division (book name Men of steel)

Anyways this:

He does not mention anywhere that page 75 was cited from any Pakistani source. He has mentioned neutral sources too apart from Indian sources , few are as below.

Sandhu, Gurcharan Singh, PVSM, Major-General (Retd) (1987). The Indian Armour: History of the Indian Armoured Corps, 1941–1971. Vols 1 and 2. Delhi: Vision Books.

Singh, Bhupinder. Colonel (Retd) (1982). 1965 War: Role of Tanks in the India–Pakistan War 1965. Patiala: BC Publishers.

Singh, Harbakhsh, Lt Gen (Retd) (2012). War Despatches: Indo-Pak Conflict 1965. Delhi: Lancer

Try not to derail this thread with garbage and misinformation anymore.

@The Eagle

 

[Ghost 125]

He clearly mentions in his book citations that his source is Pakistani official history book of 6th armoured division (book name Men of steel)

Anyways this:



Our Panzer corps captured 500 sq km in Sialkot by the end of the war

Fuuny thing is that strength of 1 Panzer Corp's 4 panzer regiments on 7th Sep was 178 tanks.

your "panzer" corps attack stalled at chawinda, and it was stopped not becoz indian wanted it to have a break but becoz it was pummeled hard. you can distort history as much as you want but fact is that,, Chawinda was your assal uttar, period.

 

[Signalian]

your "panzer" corps attack stalled at chawinda, and it was stopped not becoz indian wanted it to have a break but becoz it was pummeled hard. you can distort history as much as you want but fact is that,, Chawinda was your assal uttar, period.

That idiot doesn't have any idea that 1st "Panzer" Corps / 1st Armored Corps - didn't/doesn't exist. This happens when a troll is mindlessly trying to post without any rational thinking.

 

[Signalian]

He clearly list that Men of steel book as one of his sources.
And that is the only book in the whole wide world mentioning 180 Indian tank losses, when I Panzer corps did not even have 180 tanks on it's roster.
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By Indian estimates - There you go and take your "indian" estimates with you !

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

your "panzer" corps attack stalled at chawinda, and it was stopped not becoz indian wanted it to have a break but becoz it was pummeled hard. you can distort history as much as you want but fact is that,, Chawinda was your assal uttar, period.

This from American historian david higgins

By Indian estimates - There you go and take your "indian" estimates with you !

He mentioned the word Indian estimates for the part mentionibg Pakistani losses only.

 

[Areesh]

That idiot doesn't have any idea that 1st "Panzer" Corps / 1st Armored Corps - didn't/doesn't exist. This happens when a troll is mindlessly trying to post without any rational thinking.

Mindless troll plus multiple ID rat

You missed that part

 

[Cuirassier]

We lost less than 40 tanks in Chawinda.
Only 28 destroyed tank hulls ended up in Pakistani hands even though the battle was in Pak territory.

Total 70 tank casualties to India and 61 to Pakistan.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Total 70 tank casualties to India and 61 to Pakistan.

Ok.
That is plausible.

 

[Signalian]

He mentioned the word Indian estimates for the part mentionibg Pakistani losses only.

If you want to act blind, that's up to you, there is no mention of Pakistani citation/reference:

 

[Signalian]

Mindless troll plus multiple ID rat

You missed that part

lol, your choice of words is unique

 

[Areesh]

lol, your choice of words is unique

Well that is a fact

While he is jumping on destroyed tanks, I am sure this guy has lost more IDs on PDF than tanks India lost in its failed offensive in Sialkot sector in 1965 war

 

[Cuirassier]

Well that is a fact

While he is jumping on destroyed tanks, I am sure this guy has lost more IDs on PDF than tanks India lost in its failed offensive in Sialkot sector in 1965 war

[emoji1787]

 

[Ghost 125]

He clearly mentions in his book citations that his source is Pakistani official history book of 6th armoured division (book name Men of steel)

Anyways this:



Our Panzer corps captured 500 sq km in Sialkot by the end of the war

Fuuny thing is that strength of 1 Panzer Corp's 4 panzer regiments on 7th Sep was 178 tanks.

ohh how conviniently you missed the 5th Armr Regiment the 62 Cav which was taken from 26 Div and attached with 1st Armr Div